2. Detective Entry FAQs
Live Q+A for Detective Recruitment - Wednesday 19 July - 8-9pmThis page aims to provide basic information in response to frequently asked questions.
These questions and answers will be updated throughout the course of the recruitment and application process.
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Detective Chief Superintendent
Head of Safeguarding and Investigations directorate
Is there a shift allowance in addition to the salary listed?
There is an additional ‘unsocial hours allowance’. This applies where officers/detectives work 8pm to 6am (so a maximum entitlement of 10 hours).
This is paid at 10% of hourly rate.
Where will I have to work?
Investigators for Suffolk Constabulary work from three hubs one based in Ipswich, one in Lowestoft, one in Bury St Edmunds.
Will I have to work shifts?
At this time Investigators work day and late shifts generally between the core hours of 0800 and 2300. However as a warranted officer, shifts and roles could be changed based on operational necessity. The force also operates a CID night car function which requires all Dc’s to participate on a very limited rotational basis.
How much will I get paid?
Starting salary for a constable is £22,895 rising to £38,001 on completion of 7 years. There is of course the opportunity for promotion/career advancement through the organisation with linked increases in salary.
What happens if I do not pass the exam?
There are two opportunities to pass the exam and full support in regard to the literature and study. Should any officer not pass the exam in two attempts there will be opportunity for a sideways move to become a uniform Constable (this would be subject to vacancies and discussion at management level).
Will I need to pass any exams?
Yes all candidates will need to pass basic knowledge checks during initial training
In addition candidates will need to pass the National Investigators Exam covering relevant legislation. There are two opportunities to do this and a pass is required to achieve accreditation as a detective.
The pass mark for this exam is currently 55.7%
Support for this exam will be provided by way of 5 days paid study leave and the free provision of all of the approved study material.
Will I be wearing uniform?
Yes during the first 20 weeks of training – which is comprised (10 week foundation course and 10 week supported patrol)
Following this period smart business attire (provided at individual expense).
- For men this will mean trousers, collared shirt, tie and shoes/boots (not trainers). As with uniform the tie can be removed in hot weather and only the top button of the shirt can be unbuttoned.
- For women this will mean dress or skirt/trousers with smart top and shoes/boots (not trainers). Skirts and dresses when worn should be appropriate to the dignity and professionalism of the workplace and should not be such as to cause embarrassment to the Constabularies or colleagues.
What does the training entail?
There will be an initial training phase as an introduction to policing equipping candidates with their basic policing skills (this will last 10 weeks)
This initial training will cover key legislation, police powers and procedures as well as personal safety, first aid and equipment training.
Following this foundation course there will be a 10 week period of being tutored in response policing to consolidate learning from basic training and provide you with an understanding of operational policing requirements and context.
You will then be provided one to one tutorship with a trained Detective Constable either in an area CID or safeguarding department.
There are three additional requirements to achieve accreditation as a level 2 Investigator (Detective Constable)
- Maintain a portfolio of work (‘one file’) to show capability across relevant skill area
- Pass the National Investigators Exam (NIE a multiple choice knowledge test relating to the role of an investigator).
- Attend Initial Crime Investigators Development (Detective Constable’s) Course.
What about academic qualifications?
Level 3 qualification gained in England and Wales, within the meaning of the Education & Skills Act 2008 e.g. 'A' Level/ AS Level,
National Diploma, National Certificate, Level 3 NVQ or City & Guilds, Access to Higher Education Diploma or an academic or vocational qualification gained outside of England or Wales which is considered to be equivalent to a Level 3 qualification.
Any age restriction?
The minimum age to apply for the position of Constable is 18. There is no upper age limit however applicants should remember that the normal retirement age for Constables and Sergeants is 60. All new recruits have to undertake a 2 year probationary period.
What reference or vetting checks will be carried out?
There a number of checks that are undertaken prior to coming into the organisation as a Police Officer. These include:
- Vetting to RV (Recruitment Vetting) level. This process will also consider your immediate family and any unrelated co-residents;
- Two satisfactory employment references;
- Medical screening;
- Completion of the Force Fitness Test; and
- Biometric Screening – this includes taking finger prints and a DNA sample.
What if I have a previous conviction?
Convictions/cautions/penalty notices will not automatically prevent you from appointment. However if the matter was within the last five years most forces will not accept your application. Individual circumstances will be considered depending on the circumstances and the nature of the offence.
What must you declare?
- Any conviction (includes motoring offences such as speeding)
- Any police caution/Penalty Notice for Disorder
- Spent convictions
- Any involvement in any criminal investigation that did not lead to prosecution
- Applicants who have existing County Court Judgments (CCJs) outstanding against them should not be considered.
What sort of fitness requirements and physical attributes are needed?
Endurance Shuttle Run (Bleep Test)
This element involves running along a 15 metre track to a series of audible beeps. The beeps, during the course of the test get progressively faster. You will need to have reached each side of the track before the next beep sounds.
Pass: Run to level 5.4 (Approximately 3 1/2 minute)
What sort of people are you looking for?
We are looking for highly motivated individuals with a strong investigative mind set, good communication skills and a positive desire to help the vulnerable and support the community.
Other key assets are enthusiasm and commitment, attention to detail, tenacity, confidence and the ability to complete tasks accurately and to a deadline.
There are numerous occupations both within and outside of the police service which involve people having transferable skills and qualifications of relevance to the modern detective function. Examples of such professions would include
- Accountancy and financial services
- Information Technology
- Health and social care services
- Legal and criminal justice (CPS, probation)
- Private sector investigations
- Public sector investigations (HM Customs and Revenue, Trading Standards, security services)
- Higher education (particularly criminal justice relevant courses)
- Police staff investigators and special constables
How can I prepare for a possible assessment/interview?
There are a number of ways to prepare for the assessment process
- Speak to officers who have recently joined the organisation and seek their views as to the process and their experience of it.
- Speak to officers that currently work in the world of investigations as Detective Constables and seek their views as to the process and their experience of it.
- Refer to the Suffolk Constabulary web site to gain an understanding of the organisation its structure and its aims.
- Be aware of current affairs, particularly those that would have relevance to or place demands on the Police service.
- Attend our information evening at 1800 on Thursday 20th July 2017 at Suffolk Constabulary Police Headquarters, Portal Avenue, Martlesham Heath, IP5 3QS.
What does the job of detective entail /what will I be doing?
The role of Detective Constable is to protect the public by undertaking investigations into serious and often complex crimes. This involves all aspects of the investigative process including (but not exclusively), dealing with victims, dealing with witnesses, attending scenes, collecting and preserving evidence, identifying and arresting offenders, interviewing, creating case files and attending court.
It is anticipated that all successful applicants will be actively involved in investigating a varied range of criminality dependant on the department in which they are placed.
Investigations Department (CID) – Staff are expected to deal with residential burglaries, serious assaults, domestic abuse, robbery, fraud, theft, drug trafficking and stalking offences. In addition detectives are frequently engaged in unexplained death and high risk missing person enquiries.
Safeguarding – Staff are expected to deal with serious sexual offences, rape, honour based abuse, child sexual exploitation and human trafficking,
All staff will be supported through these investigations in the initial stages moving towards independence and more complex cases (multi offender crimes, organised crime groups and conspiracy offences as experience grows).
Additional opportunities to apply to specialise in areas such as for example major investigation, surveillance, intelligence and counter terrorism will arise after satisfactory completion of a 2 year probationary period.
To obtain more information or discuss the role in more detail with serving officers, there is an information evening at 1800 on Thursday 20th July 2017 at Suffolk Constabulary Police Headquarters, Portal Avenue, Martlesham Heath, IP5 3QS.
What is the initial selection process to enter the service under this scheme?
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More questions and answers from the Web Chat
Are DCs paid for overtime or allowed TOIL if they need to work extra hours to work within deadlines etc?
Dc’s are often required to work overtime to deal with operational and workload requirements. These extra hours are paid or alternatively can be taken as TOIL.
Hi Andy, how 'practical' is the detective role in comparison with a constable? Is the majority office based?
By comparison with uniform response PC’s the role of the Detective is more office based. However, they are frequently called upon to attend crime scenes, conduct relevant enquiries, searches and arrest suspects. In other words they are definitely not office bound.
How and when is it decided whether a detective constable will take the CID or Safeguarding pathway?
This decision is taken as soon as possible after successful selection to enter the scheme. This will entail head of safeguarding and investigations making an assessment based on relevant skills/ qualifications as well as current vacancies in both departments.
How does the selection and training differ for entrants on this scheme compared to experienced PCs who then change pathway to move into detective work?
There are not significant differences in training. Experienced Pc’s will have previously completed the same initial (uniform) training as persons who join on the detective entry scheme. On selection experienced Pc’s also have to pass the National Investigators Exam, complete the ‘one-file’ evidence based portfolio of work whilst being coached by an experienced Dc. Both routes also require candidates to complete the Initial Crime Investigators Development Programme (Dc training course). I anticipate the main difference will be the need for Dc entrants to complete additional attachments to relevant departments to ensure they have sufficient contextual grounding to perform in the role.
What are your expectations of DCs after a a few months? i.e. how long will it be before you expect new DCs to take on complex work with little Police experience?
Please note that your basic training will last a few months before you start detective training.
Officers coming into the force via the detective entry scheme will progress at different rates. I anticipate some candidates will have relevant policing or criminal justice experience already – for example police staff investigators. Candidates will be coached individually and we will ensure support is given to build experience and confidence to deal with more serious and complex cases
Does the Force provide accommodation to recruits who need it temporarily?
We do not provide police accommodation anymore
If you could offer one piece of advice to a new recruit what would it be?
Listen, observe and adopt the best traits of our most talented and successful staff. Be enthusiastic, professional, committed and strive to make a positive difference.
Hello. Do you think there will be a lot of hard feelings between those pcs who have tried to gain experience and work up to becoming a dc with no luck. And those who have applied and got in because Suffolk is so short and now needs low paid dcs to help out.
I am realistic in anticipating that there may be some scepticism from some officers about this scheme. This is to a degree understandable as this initiative is a radical departure from traditional methods of recruiting detectives. However, to date I have received a lot of positivity and support for the scheme, including from the Suffolk Police Federation. Our recent Dc entry open evening was supported by a cross section of Dc’s a number of whom have highlighted how impressed they were with the calibre of potential recruits. It is important to note that the detective entry scheme does not replace our traditional methods of recruiting talented officers it enhances it by aiming to recruit talented people with transferable skills and qualifications.
If during the process an individual fails to get a DC post, will they then be considered for a Police Officer role or would they have to reapply?
If you are assessed as suitable for a PC role then yes.
Hello, I wonder if you could tell me how you decide where people will be placed in Suffolk, and where most of the training will take place?
Most of your initial training will take place at force headquarters Martlesham Heath. Decisions as to where to post officers does take account of where they live .
Hi, with regards to promotion and career progression, will there be dependencies on higher ranked positions being vacant or will eligibility be based solely on performance?
Eligibility is based on passing national promotion exams at Sergeant and Inspector level. Once you have passed these exams, you can apply for in-force promotion which is heavily evidence based on prior performance.
How long after starting do you expect new DCs to have finished the investigation training and passed exams and be in the flow of the job in a specialism?
Please see the training pathway document which is posted on our recruitment website.
My qualifications are mostly from abroad but are all post graduate. Would that be an issue as I can't show A level qualifications. Also our grades/degrees were not graded the same way as here so I can't complete that part of the form asking if I had a 1:2 or A*. as it's differet.
We can accept qualifications that have been obtained outside of the UK provided we are able to see what the equivalent level of the qualification is in the UK. We use a UCAS International qualifications conversion for this which can be easily found on the internet. It would be down to you to demonstrate the equivalent level of qualification in the UK
Can I apply for two different forces and go to two different Police assessment centres at similar time periods?
No I’m afraid you can only apply for one Force at a time as the Police Assessment centre is a national process – if you were unsuccessful in your application to another force you would have to wait 6 months before you could reapply to another force.
I only have GCSEs and one year of a diploma can I still apply?
To apply to be a police officer you must have a level 3 qualification at the time of applying (A level 3 qualification is A ‘Levels / AS level or NVQ/BTEC at level 3)
If you have applied to another force and completed the assessment centre, can you still apply to Suffolk Police?
If you have completed the Assessment centre with another force and achieved a pass mark of 57% or over you could apply to transfer your SEARCH score to Suffolk, you would still have to attend and pass the additional DC assessment day
For those needing long commutes to go through the recruitment process, is it possible to combine medical/fitness/uniform fitting etc. to save commute costs and time to make things more efficient?
We will always try our best to combine as many appointments in one day as possible however this cannot be guaranteed
Is the start date for training October / November? or is that the final interview date? Thanks
At the moment we are looking at a start date in November – however should you not be able to attend this intake we could consider you for future intakes should you pass all stages of the application process.
If successful on application; being a special constable already.would I have to go through the various stages such as training, medical, fitness, biometric and vetting process again? Thanks
Yes you would still be required to complete all the stages again
If you have recently taken (and passed) an assessment centre in respect of the PC application process can this score be transferred across in respect of your recruitment process?
Yes this score can be transferred across as long as you have obtained our pass mark which is 57% or above, please email the DC interest inbox with details of your score and I would be able to send out to you the additional sift question to be completed
Can you elaborate on the overall salary package I.e. Pension, healthcare and annual leave?
The salary is governed by Police Regulations and the starting pay is £22,895. An unsocial hours allowance of 10% of the basic hourly rate is payable for hours worked between 8pm and 6am. The Pension scheme offered is the Police Pension Scheme 2015 and more information can be found at http://www.myownpension.co.uk/pages/pol_employee.html